tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5856801252399257208.post4809869101625897797..comments2011-07-18T12:36:39.701-05:00Comments on The Tin Spoon: get a cup of tea...this is gonna take a whileNate Heldmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15435061215274626116noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5856801252399257208.post-76891093590908206052008-11-04T16:25:00.000-06:002008-11-04T16:25:00.000-06:00thanks for your comments, mom and sal. i've got n...thanks for your comments, mom and sal. i've got no problem with disagreeing on this. it wasn't meant to convert anyone.Nate Heldmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15435061215274626116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5856801252399257208.post-46665625056134933132008-11-04T00:36:00.000-06:002008-11-04T00:36:00.000-06:00Nate, I agree with your mom, but I did read some o...Nate, I agree with your mom, but I did read some of your statements twice, and did think about them, but in the end, we will have to agree to disagree on the politics.<BR/><BR/>Great read, and very well put together.Sal Cartusciellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00379125394093795097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5856801252399257208.post-10504378537079450882008-11-03T23:23:00.000-06:002008-11-03T23:23:00.000-06:00i'm gonna have to disagree with you there, bob...i...i'm gonna have to disagree with you there, bob...i mean mom. except for the last part. i agree with you on that.<BR/><BR/>i'm not voting for him because he strikes a chord. i'm voting for him because i believe he's ready to lead the country. experience and qualification are two different things. paul said it to timothy though. don't let people tell you you're not experienced enough.<BR/><BR/>mccain is far more experienced. but i believe he will continue a track record that i cannot agree with. i believe his campaign has shown it to be true.<BR/><BR/>i appreciate the comments about Jeremiah and Israel. i agree. and i find it to be an atrocity today. but i cannot make this about a single issue. and i cannot get away from the sheer volume of content the Bible contains around God's heart for our care toward the least of these. maybe it means more to Him because He says it more. i don't think so. i more think that His people just never could get that part right. the other things went on, then didn't, then did...but the neglect of the oppressed?<BR/><BR/>it was a constant theme from when He first began speaking to when He walked with us on earth. and we never get it. we all still walk away sad. we all still don't know those least of these. not all...most.<BR/><BR/>i think of your work with widows. i know of hundreds of people here in the city and around the country. hundreds. maybe even thousands. out of millions. maybe even 100 million. we're asked to get it and we still don't.<BR/><BR/>we laugh at the Israelites because God was in their midst giving them manna and parting seas and they couldn't get it. and we can read all these thousands of years later...and we still just don't get it.<BR/><BR/>but as you say at the end, and as i also believe, God is in control of all of this. regardless of who wins, and regardless of whether or not we see our nation and economy go to hell in a handbasket or come back to life, He will still be God.Nate Heldmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15435061215274626116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5856801252399257208.post-12955378341341522282008-11-03T23:02:00.000-06:002008-11-03T23:02:00.000-06:00which one is equipped to take on the stupendous jo...which one is equipped to take on the stupendous job of president of the united states? it's not which one thinks the way we think he should think. it's which one is equipped to step into this role. i sincerely do not believe that your candidate is. you are hoping that he gets in so that your issues will be made right. it never happens. it didn't happen in this george bush term for the right. it's not going to happen the other way if your candidate gets in. the bottom line issue is, which was is prepared to step into the presidency...taking into account all the facets of the job. if your candidate fit that criteria, i'd vote for him. but he doesn't. he is singing a song that strikes a chord in your heart, maybe more than one, and no doubt a good song, but he is not ready to be the president of the united states. let him work a few more years at his current level to bring about the change you seek. i've been reading jeremiah and am stricken with God's views on the Valley of the Slaughter, where the babies were being killed. He dealt with the Jews with the most severe chastisement because of it. Four thousand babies a day getting scissors pushed into their skulls or being pulled out of the womb, limb by limb, is my issue. so while i think that my candidate is more readied to step into the white house, whether or not that says much or not, i know that my candidate and his running mate have voted consistently in a way that would at least minimize greatly the Valley of Slaughter in America. God is undoubtedly angry at the things you are blogging about as He is mine. so i will vote guided by my issues and you will vote guided by yours, but the vital point is who is the one who is experienced better to do what needs to be done on every subject the president faces every day? on the way home tonight i asked the Lord to give me a verse as i listened to my Bible tapes that would help me to rest in regard to the election. He did. "promotion does not come from the east or the west or the south, but God puts one down and raises up another." something like that. God is in control. therefore, i am at rest.EnnythingGoeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05262823596691671195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5856801252399257208.post-16212829216939936032008-11-03T22:59:00.000-06:002008-11-03T22:59:00.000-06:00i didn't...i scanned but,,,AMEN.i didn't...i scanned but,,,AMEN.Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01934667833202224128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5856801252399257208.post-75075487826165022242008-11-03T22:49:00.000-06:002008-11-03T22:49:00.000-06:00you read that whole thing? dang!you read that whole thing? dang!Nate Heldmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15435061215274626116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5856801252399257208.post-17936528424878453622008-11-03T22:26:00.000-06:002008-11-03T22:26:00.000-06:00I'm glad you're my friend.I'm glad you're my friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com